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025 Gerard Godon (reduced sound quality) |
click to read > 1. Mary: Can I ask Gerard where are you from yourself? 2. Gerard: I'm from France originally but I was brought up bilingual by my mother who was an English teacher and when my father died I was sent to Britain and I had to do my secondary and higher education in Britain. 3. Mary: Okay. So you were born in France? 4. Gerard: Yes, I was born in France. 5. Mary: But you did your education in this country? 6. Gerard: Yes. 7. Mary: But you've also lived in other countries? 8. Gerard: Oh, yes. I've lived in Afghanistan for six years and worked there as an English teacher and also as directing. as a director of a language school teaching Farsi and Pashtu to ex-patriots, foreigners who came to work in Afghanistan. 9. Mary: Fascinating. Okay, thank you. So obviously you've had all this experience abroad. 10. Gerard: Yes. 11. Mary: ... in other countries. But in coming back to this area to Harehills. 12. Gerard: Yes. 13. Mary: ... how do you think this area could become more welcoming for people who come here from other countries? If you could do anything more, if anything could be done, what could be done? 14. Gerard: Well, I think the offering of English classes is obviously a very good thing because it helps these people integrate into our society. But also they can meet people from their own area and also talk their own language with them in this particular area. areas. I think the more indigenous people could be more welcoming sometimes. 15. Mary: Right, well. 16. Gerard: Yes, if they had an understanding of where refugees come from and. 17. Mary: How many nationalities do you work with as part of your? 18. Gerard: Oh, at the moment about thirty. 19. Mary: Thirty? 20. Gerard: Yes. 21. Mary: Thirty different.? 22. Gerard: Different nationalities, yes, at least yes. 23. Mary: Right, right. 24. Gerard: Well, I have done over the years but not in any one particular time but I have done. 25. Mary: Thank you. It was. So can you tell me then what do you think a good citizen is or what do you think a good citizen does? 26. Gerard: I think a good citizen is a person who wants to come to at least try to integrate as much as possible by learning English. 27. Mary: Yes. 28. Gerard: ... and by wanting to be able to work. And that is the majority of asylum seekers and refugees. They all want to. are very keen to learn English and need to learn to work, to have a job. OK, the government doesn't always allow them to work. They don't allow asylum seekers to work, but that I think is a mistake. I think they should be able to. 29. I think also they can share their values with the indigenous people and some of their values are sometimes better than ours, in many ways. It's a value judgement, but I think particularly that people from Asia who have a respect for older people and the family is very important for them. 30. Mary: Right. 31. Gerard: Yes. Those two areas which, from my experience, have. yes. 32. Mary: So people having access to English classes. 33. Gerard: Yes. 34. Mary: ... people learning English. 35. Gerard: Learning English. 36. Mary: People getting a job and being able to work. 37. Gerard: Yes. 38. Mary: Those would be two ways for people to. 39. Gerard: To become good citizens. 40. Mary: To become good citizens. 41. Gerard: Yes. 42. Mary: And they'll also be able to share their own values. 43. Gerard: Their own values, yeah, yeah. 44. Mary: Okay. 45. Gerard: Exchange between faith communities also is very important I think. 46. Mary: Tell us what you mean. 47. Gerard: What I mean is that we should be open to other faith communities. There are certain faith communities that are more in the news than others, particularly Muslims, and I think we should be open to. People who are indigenous people to Britain should know more about. 48. Mary: So it's kind of educating. 49. Gerard: Educating them. 50. Mary: ... and working with them? 51. Gerard: Yes absolutely, it's the. 52. Mary: Are you aware of anything like that in Leeds? 53. Gerard: Well, only through. through Islamic studies and various institutions in the city but I don't know any other areas. 54. Mary: So people being open to learn from one another? 55. Gerard: Absolutely yes, yes. Yes, I'm. This will reduce the possibility of conflicts. 56. Mary: Right. 57. Gerard: ... and conflicts arising. 58. Mary: Okay. 59. Gerard: ... in this. in the area. 60. Mary: Right. 61. Gerard: ... as it has done in the past. |
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