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Mary: So, so maybe quite a lot of what you do there is about respect and about rights, but especially about responsibility.
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Carole: Hmm. Yes, definitely about responsibility because everybody has a personal responsibility.
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Mary: Right.
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Carole: I mean, I, I have a bit of an issue with.a personal issue I would say, perhaps, with the claims that people make against other, against other people when something's gone wrong, because I, I do feel anybody has a sense of personal responsibility and, we have to take that on board, and you can't blame everybody. You know, we're coming to become a bit of a blame culture really, and you can't blame everybody for things that happen, when you could have done something about it.
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Mary: Right, can you give us an example?
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Carole: Yeah, tripping, tripping over a kerbstone maybe. There is some responsibility on the Council to make sure that they've got safe places for you to, to walk on. Personally, I've tripped over a kerb once, it wasn't, it wasn't one that was jagged or out of order at all, I just fell over it with my hands in my pockets and I broke my nose. But, that was my fault, my responsibility and I'm not going to blame anybody else for that.