1. Monira: But it's true I strongly still believe, even with my children, when they do something minor I should be more careful as a parent. To make them a good citizen you have to at the beginning, I think, otherwise it's very difficult after.
2. Sometimes I say, "Oh, my son is doing this", and that not only problem coming from outside, sometimes problem inside. The parents have to deal when start, beginning, or before it's happened.
3. Wendy: Right.
4. Monira: People have got to be careful. If, together, the whole neighbourhood thinks how you bring up your children, what understanding they should have, I'm sure the neighbour who caused me a little problem in the second house, if they knew me they wouldn't do it.
5. Wendy: They wouldn't do it, right.
6. Monira: So, sometimes I feel I should go, but next time I think, "Oh, I don't have time to do this."
7. Wendy: Right, right.
8. Monira: But part of me that I should be blamed as well, you know, not everybody else.
9. Wendy: So you say, partly parents need to make sure that they bring up their children strictly?
10. Monira: That's right, of course.
11. Wendy: Is that right? And that they are the small things. They say, "No, you don't do that." Yeah?
12. Monira: Hmm.
13. Wendy: But you're also saying that neighbours need to know one another, yeah?
14. Monira: Yeah and help.
15. Wendy: And help one another?
16. Monira: Hmm.
17. Wendy: And then those neighbours can collectively, if there's a problem, then they can try to address that?
18. Monira: Yeah. And one attitude we have. Say I saw a child breaking someone else's car.
19. Wendy: Right.
20. Monira: I'd just walk out. It's none of my business. That should stop.
21. Wendy: Yes.
22. Monira: I should see if it's not my car, but who is doing it? How can he be punished and how can I stop him doing it? And if we all do that, eventually, probably, that child would stop doing it. And they do it for fun in the beginning, but the fun became a big problem at times, you see.
23. Wendy: Yes, yes, yes.
24. Monira: So, if we don't stop the crime. and this is small crime, then we are in trouble.